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]]> Comment on PAL 720p25 Varicam FCP Workflow – Via Firewire by Enzo http://www.outpostpps.com/blog/?p=24#comment-73 Enzo Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:59:43 +0000 http://www.outpostpps.com/blog/?p=24#comment-73 "How do you export it from 60fps to 25fps via Cinema Tools?" You don't. It's a two-step process. You first use the DVCPROHD Frame Rate Converter in FCP to get it to 24 fps, then take that into Cinema Tools to go from 24 to 25 fps. If this has been shot at 25, then it will be normal speed. If it has been shot 60 fps solo-mo, this process will slow it right down etc... I'll be interested to hear how you go with the EDL. My instinct tells me that won't work. Especially if you have been cutting in 30i. Would love to know. "Had we perhaps known all these problems/potential problems before hand, we might have changed our post strategy from the start." If I had a dollar for every time I heard that... ;) Investigating your post-path before you even shoot is the single most invaluable, time and headache saving thing you could ever do. Most people only get burned once ;) Good luck with it, mate. Keep us posted. “How do you export it from 60fps to 25fps via Cinema Tools?”

You don’t. It’s a two-step process. You first use the DVCPROHD Frame Rate Converter in FCP to get it to 24 fps, then take that into Cinema Tools to go from 24 to 25 fps. If this has been shot at 25, then it will be normal speed. If it has been shot 60 fps solo-mo, this process will slow it right down etc…

I’ll be interested to hear how you go with the EDL. My instinct tells me that won’t work. Especially if you have been cutting in 30i. Would love to know.

“Had we perhaps known all these problems/potential problems before hand, we might have changed our post strategy from the start.”

If I had a dollar for every time I heard that… ;)

Investigating your post-path before you even shoot is the single most invaluable, time and headache saving thing you could ever do. Most people only get burned once ;)

Good luck with it, mate. Keep us posted.

]]> Comment on PAL 720p25 Varicam FCP Workflow – Via Firewire by thomas1075 http://www.outpostpps.com/blog/?p=24#comment-72 thomas1075 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:49:26 +0000 http://www.outpostpps.com/blog/?p=24#comment-72 Hi Enzo, I will try to give this a test. Though, I have a question about your off sped material. You wrote: "By selecting 59.94 and ticking the ‘remove duplicate frames’ box, the FRC discards the redundant frames, leaving us with only the 15 flagged frames playing back at 60fps – a sped up clip. You could export this out as a new piece of media @ 25fps which would bring it into line with the rest of your cut". How do you export it from 60fps to 25fps via Cinema Tools? As for your question about us cutting in AVID. This is because we could get access to an AVID. Had we perhaps known all these problems/potential problems before hand, we might have changed our post strategy from the start. If this works i.e. converting the clips to 720p25 in Final Cut, I think we are going to make the conform and online in FCP. Then the next hurdle would be to import an Avid EDL into FCP, but as you indicate this might not be worth anything if there is no TC at all. But perhaps there is some kind of way you can convert our 30i EDL to a 25p project. I will rent the deck tomorrow and carry out testing, and will keep you posted how that turns out. Thomas Hi Enzo,
I will try to give this a test.
Though, I have a question about your off sped material.
You wrote: “By selecting 59.94 and ticking the ‘remove duplicate frames’ box, the FRC discards the redundant frames, leaving us with only the 15 flagged frames playing back at 60fps – a sped up clip. You could export this out as a new piece of media @ 25fps which would bring it into line with the rest of your cut”.

How do you export it from 60fps to 25fps via Cinema Tools?

As for your question about us cutting in AVID. This is because we could get access to an AVID. Had we perhaps known all these problems/potential problems before hand, we might have changed our post strategy from the start.

If this works i.e. converting the clips to 720p25 in Final Cut, I think we are going to make the conform and online in FCP.

Then the next hurdle would be to import an Avid EDL into FCP, but as you indicate this might not be worth anything if there is no TC at all. But perhaps there is some kind of way you can convert our 30i EDL to a 25p project.

I will rent the deck tomorrow and carry out testing, and will keep you posted how that turns out.
Thomas

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